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Friday, January 27, 2006

Abject Failure

Do you feel safer with the Republicans protecting you? I mean they're spying on your e-mail and phone calls with the best technology they have, they track every purchase you make and where you made it and what the money was spent on (or just search for "DARPA"), and they have identified 80,000 dangerous persons who are now on the 'no-fly' list.

That's right. Eighty thousand people so dangerous that they can't fly because they might blow up the airplane. Most of then US citizens and residents - including Senator Ted Kennedy (I think he got off the list by now though), and a 4 year old boy.

So Nostradamnthem decided to check on that number - I mean, it seems a little, you know, big. Looking for the source, I Googled "size no-fly list 80,000". I got 16,800 hits. On the first page I found a source - the site references the Swedish newspaper Svensa Dagbladet which discusses the list transmitted to foreign governments by the State Department. I do not read Swedish so I did not try to get a copy of the article. (By the way - there is a lot of information on that site related to other current news involving Google.) Other hits and discussion of the 80,000 number were found at Yahoo, Daily Kos, Illuminati News, NoGW, and Maximum America. And of course that still leaves 16,794 other references to that number. The point? Simply trying to find out if the number is accurate.

As you'll read in the Yahoo piece, the No-fly List is so 'super secret double probation' in nature that you are not permitted to be informed as to how you got on there or why or how to get off - but you do have to give up your SSN and driver's license number to be told they can't tell you squat and you're just screwed.

Well, so here comes the point I was getting at originally. Eighty thousand people is a damned lot of terrorists to have in this country, particularly in light of the NSA spying. However, since they are obviously not detaining and interrogating, or torturing, 80,000 citizens on the no-fly list, it implies that there is no 'probable cause' involved in getting on the list. It's a do-nothing but harassment list. This list is most clearly compiled on whim and pique. You can get on it by having a name similar to a terrorist, or by visiting an Islamic website, or by publicly criticizing the Bushies. But you can't get off the list. And this is in spite of the fact that DARPA knows every move you make.

Eighty thousand people labeled as that dangerous implies a government out of control. Is there any probable cause for this list? If even 10% of that list is there for genuine probable cause, that is 8,000 terrorists, and it indicates a complete, utter, abject failure of the Bush dictatorship to protect the nation. One tenth of one percent of the that list would be 80 terrorists, and that is four times the number involved in leveling the WTC. Sleep well, America.

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