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Tuesday, January 24, 2006

Its not just jobs...

European investigations increasingly indicate that the US was outsourcing it's torture as well at it's jobs last year. There is not confirmation of any specific prison used for these purposes as yet, but it's not likely that Cheney will tell the CIA to hang a "CIA Secret Detention and Torture Dungeon" sign on the front - in any language.

The head of a European investigation into alleged CIAsecret prisons in Europe said Tuesday there was evidence the United States outsourced torture to other countries and it was likely European governments knew about it.

But Swiss senator Dick Marty said there was no formal evidence so far of the existence of clandestine detention centers in Romania or Poland as alleged by the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

"There is a great deal of coherent, convergent evidence pointing to the existence of a system of 'relocation' or 'outsourcing' of torture," Marty said in a report presented to the Council of Europe, the human rights watchdog investigating the alleged secret prisons.

The report said more than 100 terror suspects may have been transferred to countries where they faced torture or ill treatment in recent years.

"It is highly unlikely that European governments, or at least their intelligence services, were unaware," Marty said in the report.

So since there is no actual 'proof' as yet, it is no doubt continuing. And we can't know as yet if the torture work is being done by our team or outsourced to the lowest bidder (like Blackwater or Halliburton or Russia?). But isn't there another way to win a war beside body counts and torture? Whatever happened to all that 'winning the hearts and minds' fluff? I don't think electric shocks and beatings win any hearts.

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